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Poster: Tribe Date: May 19, 2003 10:10am
Forum: etree Subject: Genres

I, for one, would like to see some indication of the genre of music under which a particular performer could be categorized. I know this might be a pipe dream of mine, what with the many performers bending the neat little musical categories we're used to. But, for example, I'm not really interested in the "jam" or "rock" stuff, but rather, in the bluegrass or bluegrass-related performers. While it's pretty clear that Del Mccoury and the YMSB are bluegrass performers....it took me some digging to find that you also archive bands such as the Steep Canyon Rangers and the Back Porch Ramblers, who are clearly bluegrass bands. Had I not researched them a bit, I never would have known that.

Anyways, it may be something to think about.

Cheers

Tribe

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Poster: vansabar Date: May 20, 2003 7:29am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Genres

Live-tronica is a category:
Signal Path
STS9

who else?

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Staffbleblanc Date: May 20, 2003 8:53am
Forum: etree Subject: Live-tronica

I'm not sure what "Live-tronica" is (that's the problem with genres...), but it kinda sounds like a word you could apply to Lotus.

-Brad

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Poster: Erich Date: May 19, 2003 10:31am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Genres

its realyl subjective though at times, so hopefully implementation that can have multiple genre listings in certain cases may be best. Also, when artists specificaly do different types of shows it may be difficult to catagorize. Ti Reynolds does acoustic istrumental performances, but then did an entire tour of just industrial electric rock with vocals. That in itself may be an issue.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Staffchops11 Date: May 19, 2003 11:25am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Genres

yeah that could be tough.. because who's to say what genre a specific show is. Some bands do some pretty crazy stuff on Halloween, New Years, etc. it is even difficult to label a band like YMSB as bluegrass, jamgrass, folkgrass, yada yada yada. just my couple of pennies.

cheers
ed

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Poster: Erich Date: May 19, 2003 12:03pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Genres

to piggy back on this post with my suggestion for a genre system, how about this... for every show, theres a voting system where you can select what genre you think best describes that show. So for a Tim Reynolds acoustic show, you might get 10 votes acoustic, one vote instrumental, one vote jazz guitar. For his electric show you might get 8 votes rock, 5 votes industrial, 1 vote metal. The can all show up if you do a search by genre, with it showing the amount of votes for that genre plus the amount of votes for the other genres. that way if a Metallica show came p as rock, you might see that its only one vote rock 17 votes metal (theyre not on here, but one day they may be, so its hypothetical).

thoughts on that type of system?

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Poster: Tribe Date: May 19, 2003 1:22pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Genres

Good One! I like it a lot....the only thing is someone has to pick the "genres" to vote on in the first place. As others have posted, can be a pain, but nice idea and good place to start.

Tribe

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffDiana Hamilton Date: May 19, 2003 11:39pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Genres

Related to the ideas, I made a genre-independent voting suggestion at http://www.archive.org/todo.php id 98.

Given the heated discussions around topics like, "What is jazz?" it seems unfair to stick many artists in genre categories, especially the number of free-spririted ones hosted here.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffJonathan Aizen Date: May 19, 2003 1:35pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Genres

in theory i like the idea, but the implementation for a per-show basis is a bit much. i think it's just a bit overboard.

i'd be one to favor having as many genres as people want attributed to an artist, and let reviews and setlists guide the users to specific variations for a given show/set of shows (like tim's acoustic vs. electric stuff).

users could add their own genres or pick from a list of existing ones.

This post was modified by Jonathan Aizen on 2003-05-19 20:35:27

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Poster: Michael Moran Date: May 19, 2003 10:46pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Genres

That makes a good deal of sense, Jonathan. Perhaps it might be an idea to use the All Music Guide as a model (www.allmusic.com) When you look up a particular group, it shows the genre(s), as well as a further breakdown of "styles". For instance, when you enter "String Cheese Incident", the genre is "rock", and the styles are listed as "jam bands", "neo-psychedia" and "progressive bluegrass". Those are linked to a database of other artists designated as having that style.

I wouldn't necessarily say that the archive should use the same categories, but the idea seems to work pretty well.

Mike

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffJonathan Aizen Date: May 19, 2003 10:21am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Genres

i have an idea of how to implement it. add it to the feature request list and i'll get to it eventually.

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